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Comentariat · Publicado: Dom Nov 11, 2007 11:25 am **Título del mensaje**: Inglés

Hola Diego,

He visto en otros foros que tienen un apartado sólo para textos en portugués y otro sólo para textos en inglés. Sólo copy paste de la noticia original, con links y que no admiten comentarios. Esto es para facilitar la entrada a gente con español limitado, pero que se interesa por nuestros enfoques/conversaciones/ideas. Si encuentro el link vuelvo y lo pego.

Sería bueno también otro apartado para "humor", poesías o videos relacionados. Podría llamarse "Trivia".

Saludos para todos, Very Happy

Comentariat

(me he quitado el número 46 ó 64, por si aparece un troll y empieza a confundir con los números)

DiegoAA

Comentariat, sobre el apartado de humor creo que 'Ludicrous' puede ser el término que todos entendemos, o bien, Histriónico, que me parece su buena traducción (además de ser un trastorno de la personalidad).

Aunque se agradece que haya humor en cualquier apartado. La risa, la sonrisa, como las lágrimas, son propias del ser humano.

Comentariat · Publicado: Dom Nov 11, 2007 11:32 am **Título del mensaje**:

Bueno, adelante

nena · Postulante Registrado: 11 Nov 2007 Mensajes: 56

Yo propongo que cada vez que se ponga un texto en inglés, francés, portugués ... se escriban por lo menos 2 lineas resumiendo de que trata . Hay que tener en cuenta que, para los que no saben idiomas, aplicar a todo la traducción on line es un rollo .
Como ya os comenté , mis problemas van con el inglés , y justamente en este caso fastidia un montón no poder enterarme de lo que se cuece en esos foros del Mirror de los que hablaís , el blog de Whatever mal que bien lo voy leyendo aunque me pierdo toda su ironía que seguro que la tiene...

Comentariat · Publicado: Dom Nov 11, 2007 7:55 pm **Título del mensaje**:

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Dado que el foro alternativo del Mirror ha cerrado, TF ha abierto este foro en inglés

http://eeore.proboards106.com/

Suerte TF ! Very Happy

Comentariat · Publicado: Dom Nov 11, 2007 8:21 pm **Título del mensaje**:

Perverting the course of justice
1. Persuading, or attempting to persuade, by intimidation, harm or otherwise, a witness not to give evidence, to alter his evidence or to give false evidence;
2. Interference with jurors with a view to influencing their verdict;
3. False alibis and interference with evidence or exhibits, for example blood and DNA samples;
4. Providing false details of identity to the police or courts with a view to avoiding the consequences of a police investigation or prosecution;
5. Giving false information, or agreeing to give false information, to the police with a view to frustrating a police inquiry; for example, lying as to who was driving when a road traffic accident occurred;
6. Lending a driving licence to another to produce to the police following a notice to produce, thereby avoiding an offence of driving whilst disqualified being discovered;
7. agreeing to give false evidence;
8. Concealing or destroying evidence concerning a police investigation to avoid arrest;
9. Assisting others to evade arrest for a significant period of time; and
10. Making a false allegation which wrongfully exposes another person to the risk of arrest, imprisonment pending trial, and possible wrongful conviction and sentence.

http://cps.gov.uk/legal/section22/chapter_a.html#05

Comentariat · Publicado: Dom Nov 11, 2007 9:06 pm **Título del mensaje**:

Traits of the Narcissist

The Narcissist feels grandiose and self-important (e.g., exaggerates accomplishments, talents, skills, contacts, and personality traits to the point of lying, demand to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements). Is obsessed with fantasies of unlimited success, fame, fearsome power or omnipotence, unequalled brilliance (the cerebral narcissist), bodily beauty or sexual performance (the somatic narcissist), or ideal, everlasting, all-conquering love or passion. He is firmly convinced that he or she is unique and, being special, can only be understood by, should only be treated by, or associate with, other special or unique, or high-status people (or institutions).

The narcissist requires excessive admiration, adulation, attention and affirmation - or, failing that, wishes to be feared and to be notorious (Narcissistic Supply). He feels entitled. Demands automatic and full compliance with his or her unreasonable expectations for special and favorable priority treatment.

The narcissist is "interpersonally exploitative", i.e., uses others to achieve his or her own ends. He is devoid of empathy. Is unable or unwilling to identify with, acknowledge, or accept the feelings, needs, preferences, priorities, and choices of others. He is constantly envious of others and seeks to hurt or destroy the objects of his or her frustration. Suffers from persecutory (paranoid) delusions as he or she believes that they feel the same about him or her and are likely to act similarly.

The narcissist behaves arrogantly and haughtily. Feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, "above the law", and omnipresent (magical thinking). Rages when frustrated, contradicted, or confronted by people he or she considers inferior to him or her and unworthy.

http://cuttingthroughtherubbish.blogspot.com/2007/11/gerry-mccann-personality-disorder.html

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http://bararguido.forum2u.org/satire-from-portugal-t11.html

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I was reading through some posts concerning the Madeleine McCann case and there was much speculation on where little Maddie’s body could have been hidden, kept from decomposing, transported, and disposed of, should the parents be involved in her disappearance. Meanwhile, Stacy Peterson, the fourth wife of a police officer, has gone missing in Illinois and her friends and neighbors are combing the area for her body and police are dredging local ponds. If her husband killed her, where would he be likely to put her body?

It is an unpleasant, if not horrifying thought, to imagine someone handling a corpse, especially one that might be a child, one’s own child. What kind of mind can deal with disposing of a body, especially the body of a person who is an intimate part of your life? What happens in the brain that would allow someone to do some of the things we have seen before like dismembering a body or carrying it about it in stages of decomposition? The concept is so foreign to many people that they dismiss certain scenarios as impossible because they cannot conceive of doing such things themselves. They are unfamiliar with how another who is perhaps narcissistic or psychopathic and also possibly desperate can actually do pretty gruesome stuff with a person they once supposedly loved or cared for. Yet, the reality is that some people can indeed do such things.

For this very reason, an investigator cannot rule out bizarre possibilities when trying to locate a missing person. Many factors might play into what was done with a body. First of all, how the person was killed may affect choices. Is there a need to mask the cause of death or to destroy particular evidence of the implement of death? Is there a need to cover up prior physical or sexual abuse issues or drug issues? Any evidence the killer feels might identify him as the offender might cause the killer to destroy the body or parts of the body or work harder to make sure the body is never found.

If the killer is not afraid of being linked to the crime by relationship, location, or evidence, the body may easy to find, lying on the side of the road in plain view or left at the scene of the crime, perhaps in the victim’s apartment.

So, when a missing person is suspected of being dead, the detective must thoroughly investigate the victim’s life and those people involved in it. The answer to where the body lies may be within the details of the victim’s life and relationships.

Stacy Peterson’s body is likely going to be as hard to find as Lisa Stebic’s. Stebic’s husband says he sympathizes with Stacy’s husband because he knows how it feels to have a wife go missing and everyone suspects the husband had something to do with it. My guess is he can relate how nerve-racking it is to hope the searches never come near where one put the body.

So someone wrote that they wondered whether Madeleine’s body could be stored in a freezer. Many bodies have been kept that way but it usually requires a stand-alone freezer (one of those big storage types) and not a side-by-side in the kitchen (unless one is dismembering the body as well). If there was not one in any of the resort apartments (and it does seem unlikely that type of freezer would be present), her body would have had to be stored in a private home. The next question might be how long it would take a body to unfreeze. I looked up turkeys and some of the big one’s take four days! I find that rather interesting in the sense of possible DNA in the McCann’s hire vehicle meaning a frozen body transported to another location shouldn’t unfreeze in that short a time to leave DNA and hair. I don’t find myself particular convinced of the freezer theory because of lack of freezer space available in the resort rental units and the theoretical DNA in the hire car.

So, if the McCann’s were involved and there was really DNA in the hire car, I would lean more toward the possibility her body was in a shallow grave in a drive sandy area and moved when it was feared the searches would locate the body. The decomposition would likely, in that climate, to cause mummification, a drying of the body, making it less difficult to move, but not making it impossible for evidence of that move to be left behind by stressed out and panicked participants.

If it turns out the McCanns had zero to do with the crime, the body is either on private property of a pedophile (which would tend to eliminate Murat) or, the body is in the ocean and will never be found.

It will be interesting to see if Maddie is ever found what methodology the guilty party or parties used to prevent discovery of a body and any evidence.

BTW, for those of you who think Lisa Stebic, Stacy Peterson, Natalee Holloway, and Madeleine McCann are really alive, I applaud your sense of hope. I am a lot more cynical, and though there is occasionally a miracle or surprise ending, chances of anyone of these four missing persons showing up alive is near zero. The two married women had children they loved and husbands they were afraid of. This equation usually means the disappearance of the wife is the result of a husband offing her. And Natalee and Madeleine were both blonde, but sex rings can find lots of blondes without resorting to high profile kidnappings that might expose them. Natalee and Madeleine have almost zero chance of being found alive.

Let’s just hope, then, that we can at least find out what happened to them and see that justice is served.

Criminal Profiler Pat Brown

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2/6 CANNON STREET
LONDON
EC4M 6YH
Company No. 06248215
Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 15/05/2007
Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Company Type: PRI/LTD BY GUAR/NSC (Private, limited by guarantee, no share capital)
Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
None Supplied
Accounting Reference Date: 31/03
Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
Next Accounts Due: 31/01/2009
Last Return Made Up To:
Next Return Due: 12/06/2008
Previous Names:
No previous name information has been recorded over the last 20 years.
Branch Details
There are no branches associated with this company.
Oversea Company Info
There are no Oversea Details associated with this company.

The date that this Company is registered is the 15.5.07 just 12 days after Madeleine disappeared.

First Madeleine went missing on the night of the 3rd May and most people did not know until Friday 4th May. Unless you wrote and posted a cheque straight away to the McCanns in Ocean village PDL Portugal to arrive in PDL by about Tuesday or Wednesday 9th/10th there would not have been enough money to even contemplate starting a fund.

Most people would have waited for at least a few days to see if Madeleine was found before sending money. So that would have been in the w/c Monday 8th.

So by the time it got to Portugal, Rothley etc it would have been the end of the week.
Mostly rewards were offered in the beginning for the safe return of Madeleine but these were would only be paid if Madeleine was found and the abductor charged.

So why register for a Fund just 12 days after the disappearance of Madeleine, surely by then there was not enough money coming in to warrant a fund.

The date of the 15.5.07 was the date the company became registered and would not have been the date the papers were sent to Companies House. Obviously it must take a couple of days to get papers drawn up, a fund set up amongest other things so this would have been done in the week commencing the 8.5.07.

So for this fund to have been in place the lawyers were there straight after Madeleine disappeared. Why? Was it to give legal comment on what might have happened on the 3.5.07 and to point out where they stood in the eyes of the law. Client confidentiality etc.

It as also been pointed out by another poster that prior to the setting up of the limited company, they also enquired about registering as a charity.

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Caso Maddie não pára por falta de dinheiro

JOSÉ MANUEL OLIVEIRA e PAULA MARTINHEIRA
LEE SANDERS-AP (imagem)
Numa altura em que a defesa do casal McCann acusa a Polícia Judiciária (PJ) de não estar a investigar o desaparecimento de Madeleine por falta de dinheiro, o presidente do Sindicato dos Magistrados do Ministério Público, António Cluny, garante que "é quase impossível num caso destes, altamente mediático, sob forte pressão internacional, abrandar ou mesmo terminar, havendo ainda diligências úteis a fazer, por não existirem verbas".

"Outra coisa não seria de esperar", frisou aquele responsável em declarações ao DN, lembrando que, "caso a PJ não tenha dinheiro para prosseguir esta investigação, o que até é possível, uma vez que a mesma deve estar a custar muito dinheiro ao Estado, sendo o Ministério Público o titular do processo, o Governo seria chamado a resolver o assunto através de um reforço financeiro".

"O Ministério da Justiça teria de arranjar dinheiro de alguma forma", sublinhou.

António Cluny adianta que, ao longo da sua carreira, nunca viu ninguém nem qualquer organismo invocar o argumento de falta de dinheiro para pôr fim a uma investigação criminal, embora "suspeitasse, às vezes, que na prática, era isso que acontecia". Daí que, os argumentos dos advogados dos McCann sejam, para aquele dirigente sindical, "pura conversa da treta".

Na sua opinião, um processo só é arquivado "quando se conclui que nada mais há a fazer, em termos de diligências úteis". Mesmo assim, observou, "podem sempre ser mantidos abertos alguns canais". "Há sempre um controlo do arquivamento dos processos pelo Ministério Público, através da indicação de diligências úteis a fazer", explicou.

Para António Cluny, não existe um timing para o desfecho do processo de desaparecimento de Madeleine McCann. "Um caso destes existe até à prescrição do crime", sustentou.|

http://dn.sapo.pt/2007/11/10/sociedade/caso_maddie_para_falta_dinheiro.html

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TUESDAY, AUGUST 14, 2007
Madeleine Incorporated
The coverage of the strange case of Madeleine McCann was, in today's Times, restricted to the smallest of paragraphs on page seven. And yet even this small act of measured disclosure managed only to further amplify the weird eddies which attach to this mystery; whose hundredth day was marked last sunday. There can't be many distraught parents of a missing toddler who apply to trademark her name- or the name of the fund established to help find her; and yet the directors of Madeleine's Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned, have indeed sought to do just that. Even stranger is why this has only (officially) been revealed now, when the application has been known about since shortly after it was first made: on May 18th.

This, should anyone's memory need refreshing, was barely two weeks into the case: precisely when we might expect the waves of panic, terror and delirium to be at their most crippling. But such would gravely underestimate the capacity of the people at the centre of the storm to survive, even to thrive, under the most terrible of circumstances. In the first place it was Gerry who seemed most intoxicated by the grief, becoming- in his own words- 'like a man possessed' following a curious encounter in his local Catholic church. In an earlier article we posed the question of whether the cardiologist's dramatic metamorphosis was provoked not only by desperation but perhaps by an enormous upsurge of kundalini energy, a spontaneous physical reaction of the sort which extreme grief- or love or madness- can commonly produce. We further speculated whether such a course might not have been assisted by his (unproven) involvement in spiritual practices of the occult variety: specifically, Illuminism.

In more recent days it has been the turn of his previously mute wife to bask in enhanced energies; leading to a far more prominent role for the locum GP. But whether this has anything to do with the omnipresent forces of the occult conspiracy, or merely the latest stratagem by those on the payroll to promote their strongest asset, common sense must determine. Still, though, though the style gurus will still be wringing their hands, because the net result has merely been to present a second jaw-droppingly odd individual up to the public's forensic gaze; and coming from a conspiraloon like myself this is quite a damning observation.

But then nothing about this case is normal; and the same could be said of the family at the heart of it: fat salaries notwithstanding. Who else has big-time politicos flown out on their behalf, alongside a glittering rostrum of media and PR heavyweights? Who else inspires late-night telephone calls from British diplomats, to foreign police chiefs suspected of asking the wrong questions? Who else has the machinery to support a global campaign- procedures, directors, auditors, lawyers- fully in place thirteen days after their toddler disappears; taking donations from the millions of visitors to a website registered yet earlier: a full six days after said toddler's 'abduction?' It could only be the McCanns. Who else can call upon the services of River Media, a top production company, to create said website; whilst insisting it was knocked up over coffee by a Scottish student and sustained by a handful of do-gooding teenagers?

Who else could create a limited company- expressly 'to provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine's family'- and seek to obtain charitable status for said company, even petitioning Parliament in an attempt to procure it? Who else would appoint as co-director of the fund one Esther McVey, the latest in a long line of mysteriously well-connected family friends? (Like Jill Renwick, for whom the cream of the British establishment came out to bat for Kate and Gerry, all on the basis of a desperate, intuitive phone call to GMTV; and a chance encounter with the Prime Minister's brother.) That's media and image consultant, the Conservative parliamentary candidate for Wirrall East, and well-known radio and television personality Esther McVey, self-professed expert in 'the art of presentation.' Whose PR company, Making It Ltd, offers 'clear guidance... on how to make every interview an advantageous situation for you...' and on 'delivering your message as clearly and concisely, relaxed, confident and authoritatively as you can.'

Not that anybody could accuse the McCanns of a deficit of confidence; and they have certainly been relentless in driving home their message. Not, of course, the message of their daughter's disappearance- they have elected to leave the searching to others- but the message of their blamelessness, which they have continued to spout even in the face of mounting evidence against them. Including on BBC1's The Heaven and Earth Show, a sunday morning God-slot previously fronted by one Esther McVey, and currently by that well-known political rottweiller: Gloria Hunniford.

But then Esther McVey, rather like the McCanns, has carved out a lucrative niche as the caring face of corporatism. Which would explain why, in her capacity as 'family friend' she was happy to be interviewed by Sky News; ensuring that banners advertising her business were prominently displayed behind her. (Banners, incidentally, boasting a highly esoteric symbol: a negatively-aligned pentagon formed of five-pointed stars, seemingly conjured by the 'Happy Man' of Secular Humanism, a character we have met with before in these pages.) Taking their lead from this stirling moral example, the McCanns too have proven highly adroit at turning suffering into profit.

An initial run of 100,000 yellow 'Madeleine bands' was followed swiftly by a range of merchandise and donation opportunities, none so crass as the one-pound 'Text MADDIE to 60999' appeal; for whose sake the parents were willing to ignore their own curt reminders to journalists that their daughter be known exclusively by her full name. And whilst the online store may currently be down- with the advice for shoppers to 'try again later'- the famous McCann entrepreneurial zeal is unflagging. If the rumours are correct, both Kate and Gerry have been spotted filling in hours between strategy meetings hawking wristbands at Algarve supermarkets well served by the British tourist trade. Strange, then, that the totaliser has remained frozen just below the million mark for weeks- having only ever been updated infrequently; giving rise to suspicions that the total revenue may be several times greater than the team is letting on.

Although the site carries no advertising, it links to one which does: the website for the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre, a government-run body whose corporate logo happens to look strangely like the iris defect upon which so much attention has been directed. Interestingly, there are no adverts on any of its other pages except the one linked from the Find Madeleine site; which suggests, at the very least, that CEOP is also prepared to exploit public anxiety where it thinks it can make a tidy profit from doing so. A more cynical observer would consider the likelihood of a revenue-sharing deal struck between CEOP and its hugely-popular 'subsidiary', the Find Madeleine site; the principal beneficiaries of any such deal being, of course, the fund (ie, the McCanns.) But behaviour so rapacious would be anathema to the good doctors, surely?

Perhaps not. The McCanns have consistently misled the public about the reasons they so quickly moved to establish the fund in the first place. Whilst many assumed that some of the money would be used to employ private investigators, the one group of professionals that the McCanns definitely have instructed are lawyers. Expensive ones. A news release from the International Family Law Group, dated May 13th, shows that the family contacted IFLG for advice less than a week after the disappearance. As the mood in the Algarve turns nasty, and the evidence- if not of murder, then neglect and perverting the course of justice- piles up, several have questioned whether the real purpose of the presence of two lawyers and a QC is to build a defense in the event of a possible arrest, rather than to further the hunt for the girl.

'Madeleine is such a sociable child,' said Kate McCann in a recent interview, 'so funny and engaging... But she hated it when we called her Maddie. She'd say, 'My name is Madeleine', with an indignant look on her face.

I bet she's giving whoever she's with her tuppence worth.'

Seems like she's giving a lot of people her tuppence worth- this Murder Incorporated... And a lot more than that too. There are a lot of powerful forces with a keen interest in this little girl, conspiracy theorists included; and whilst the money keeps rolling in, the circus will keep rolling on.

http://ben-fairhall.blogspot.com/2007/08/madeleine-incorporated.html

Comentariat · Publicado: Lun Nov 12, 2007 6:02 pm **Título del mensaje**:

McCanns accused of pressuring Tapas Nine to 'keep them silent'
Last updated at 15:04pm on 12th November 2007

Madeleine McCann's parents faced fresh allegations today that they are pressurising their friends into keeping silent over the events surrounding their daughter's disappearance.
One of the "Tapas nine" who was dining with the couple on the night Madeleine vanished is said to feel "obliged to keep silent".
Respected Spanish newspaper El Mundo quoted an un-named lawyer, said to represent the friend, criticising the McCanns' advisers.
The lawyer told the newspaper: "My client feels obliged to keep silent about what he can do to help the investigation, and not because of the Portuguese secrecy laws.
"This is very revealing about the strange circumstances surrounding this case.
"It's not that he is scared of the McCanns, but the economic and political lobby surrounding the couple is truly frightening to anybody.
"What my client wants is to reveal the whole truth, but he does not mean to accuse or blame anyone, as that is the job of the police.
"The only thing he wants is to help the police discover the truth about what happened before, during and after that dinner on May 3."
Last week El Mundo reported that lawyers acting for two of the McCanns' friends have contacted Portuguese police to say they wish to "correct" certain parts of their statements.
Gerry and Kate McCann's spokesman Clarence Mitchell denied the report and said it was not true that any of the couple's friends want to change their stories.
But the British lawyer, who has an office in London, told El Mundo: "If you take into account all of the pressure that has been placed on my client and on other people, it is perfectly natural and understandable that my client has not told Clarence Mitchell of his decision to hire his own lawyer to co-operate more closely with the police."
Four of the Tapas Nine: (clockwise from top left) Fiona Payne, Jane Tanner, Russell O' Brien, Rachael Oldfield. Not pictured are Matthew Oldfield, David Payne, and Dianne Webster
The lawyer also claimed that on the night of May 3 the McCanns did not call the police until they had discussed the possible implications for them of having left their three children alone in the holiday apartment.
The lawyer said: "The police were only informed after the group in question analysed the problems they could face for having left the children alone, and until now, my client has not had the opportunity to talk for himself about it all."
The lawyer, who is said to have been hired by the friend in September, was also critical of the help the McCanns have been given by the British authorities.
He said: "I understand perfectly that our government is legally obliged to help the McCanns.
"What I can't understand is that they have received help which goes far beyond what would be considered normal in a case like this.
"However, from the very beginning it has been clear that the Madeleine case is not a normal police case.
"It's not my job to have to explain why and how certain politicians have intervened in this case, but I'm afraid these interventions have been prejudicial not only to my client, but also for determining the truth.
"My client has not received any personal support from the British authorities, only that which has come through the McCann couple.
"I don't want to accuse anyone, but there are people very close to the McCanns who are not helping them at all.
"The intention of my client is to bring to light the truth of this sad story, without any concern for who might be implicated."
Four of the Tapas Nine, the name given to Gerry and Kate McCann and the seven friends they were dining with on the night Madeleine disappeared from the holiday complex in the Algarve, have reportedly brought in their own lawyers as they prepared to be named as official suspects.
Missing: And, at the centre of it all, four-year-old Madeleine McCann, who has been missing for six months
A Sunday newspaper named the four as Russell O'Brien and his partner Jane Tanner, Matthew Oldfield and Dr David Payne.
It claimed they had been warned they would join the McCanns and Robert Murat as "arguidos" after the discovery by Portuguese investigators of inconsistencies in key statements made immediately after Madeleine vanished.
Dr Payne, a 41-year-old cardiovascular researcher from Leicester, was the last person outside the McCann family to see Madeleine at the Ocean Club resort on May 3.
Gerry asked him to check on his wife and children while he having a tennis lesson at about 6.30pm.
Attention has also focused on Jane Tanner's claim she saw a man carrying a girl from the McCanns' ground floor apartment at about 9.15pm - when another witness says he was outside the flat at the same time but did not see her or the mystery man.
Mr Oldfield, 37, from south London, has said he entered the McCanns' apartment to check on the children about 30 minutes before Madeleine was reported missing by her mum.
He told police that although he had seen the McCanns' two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie, their sister's bed was out of his sight-line.
Dr O'Brien, 36, from Exeter, was away from the group for up to 45 minutes between 9.30pm until 10.15pm while he tended to his own child who was sick in his apartment.
He told police he had changed her bedlinen, but staff at the Ocean Club were said to have denied any change of sheets was requested.
The McCanns and their friends have always denied any involvement in Madeleine's disappearance - and insist she was kidnapped.
They are barred by strict Portuguese secrecy laws from speaking about the events of May 3 but recently issued a statement denying they had a "pact of silence" or that they were covering up a secret.
Portuguese police are preparing to send a three-man team led by chief investigator Paulo Rebelo to the UK to reinterview the Tapas Nine.
British detectives will ask questions put to them by their Portuguese counterparts.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=493208&in_page_id=1811

Comentariat · Publicado: Lun Nov 12, 2007 10:07 pm **Título del mensaje**:

Rabid Ranting in Support of the McCanns
Roger Knapman is a UKIP MEP for South West England.

He made news in 2006 when it was revealed his son was importing labourers from Eastern Europe to undercut British workers, by 50%. Which was rather embarrassing for Mr Knapman given that his party is opposed to immigration partly for this reason, but mainly because it wishes to be seen as standing up for Britian in Europe.

His embarrassment perhaps took on an extra red glow, when it was also revealed that some of these same workers had been living in his attic, while carrying out renovation work on his house.
You would be forgiven if this sounds a little like the plot of La Cage Aux Folles.

Anywho...

Mr Knapman is the UKIP spokesman on Civil Liberties, Justice and Home Affairs. And he appararently has an assistant called Piers Merchant.

Now whether this is the same Piers Merchant who was photographed in the arms of a 'nightclub hostess' while a Tory MP, I cannot say.

The reason for the build up, is this reply to an email sent to Mr Knapman, in regard to the McCann case. It was posted on the Mirror Forum with an invitation to give it wider coverage, so that is what I intend doing.

Ladies and Gentlemen, take your seats, kick off your shoes, and enjoy the delight that is the Voice of Reason:

"Roger Knapman MEP has asked me to thank you for your email and to reply as he is currently travelling to Strasbourg.

First I should advise you, for your own good, to be very cautious about circulating potentially high libellous statements about Kate and Gerry McCann.

The law of defamation applies to email and the internet. Secondly your suggestion that the Prime Minister is involved in some sort of conspiracy involving a clandestine cover-up is absurd. It is a wild allegation with no evidence at all.

One of the first duties of the British government is to support its citizens abroad. It is therefore entirely correct that the government should do this in the case of Kate and Gerry McCann.

One of the elements of this supporty is to protect British citizens against the actions of foreign governments. The Portuguese police and judicial system is known to be suspect. Elements of the police are corrupt and indeed in this case the senior detective involved has been charged with corruption.

The Portuguese judicial system does not assume innocence before guilt in the way the British system does and operates an interrogatory process in which people are denounced as suspects without any proof. In this particular case the original police investigation was amateurish and flawed and to date nearly 10 different people have at one time or another been denounced as suspects.

It is important to realise that Portugal has no real history of citizen's rights and liberties or democracy. From the 1920s to the mid 1970's Portugal was ruled by a fascist dictatorship, first under Salazar and then Caetano. Political opposition was repressed and the police and judicial system was used to achieve this.

A stable multi-party democracy only came into existence in the late 1970's and is still very young. Many of the police were trained under fascism and the institutions still bear the impact of this long period of dictatorship. In all the circumstances it is entirely right that British citizens should be protected against an unreliable foreign system. In any event I think you can rest assured that the British police and intelligence services have long had a better grip on the facts of this case than the Portuguese police.

Best wishes
Piers Merchant
Assistant to Roger Knapman MEP"

You can put your eyes back in now.

I love the way Mr Merchant denies the British government is involved in a conspiracy, and then justifies the British government acting in a conspiratorial manner to protect the McCanns from an 'unreliable foreign system'

No doubt Mr Merchant is of the impression that Allo Allo is a hard hitting documentary series.

I would be interested to know the names of the 10 people denounced by the facist Portugese police. To my knowledge there have only been three people named as arguidos.

I would also be interested to know why he thinks the Portugese legal system is based on an assumption of guilt. Amnesty International make no mention of this in their most recent report, and that is the sort of thing they tend to be quite hot on that sort of thing.

Though it is interesting that he mentions the British secret services being involved in the investigation. Given that this is mentioned in the book Madeleine 129.

I wonder if it is the same Piers Merchant:

"In 1997 Piers Merchant learned the camera never lies when he was photographed kissing a blonde, 17-year-old nightclub hostess. He claimed the pictures were a set-up. Six months later he was ‘set up’ again with the same woman, and decided to resign."

If it is, no doubt he will claim that it is unfair to drag up the past.

And while speaking about bigots and Portugal. You may remember Tony 'Special Brew' Parsons' extraordinary outburst in which he refered to the Portugese as 'sardine munchers' among other things.

This led to a number of compliants to the Press Compliants Commision, around 50. The Commision are currently investigating the matter. And as per their procedure, they have selected one complaint to represent all the others. And the complaint they have choosen to highlight is from (not Julie Burchill) Antonio Santana Carlos: the Portugese Ambassador to London.

Incidentally, voters in South West England, will have the chance to unseat Mr Knapman at the Euro elections to be held in 2009. And one of the people they will be able to elect is Justine McGuinness: one time flame haired PR maestro for the McCanns.
Rabid Ranting in Support of the McCanns
Roger Knapman is a UKIP MEP for South West England.

He made news in 2006 when it was revealed his son was importing labourers from Eastern Europe to undercut British workers, by 50%. Which was rather embarrassing for Mr Knapman given that his party is opposed to immigration partly for this reason, but mainly because it wishes to be seen as standing up for Britian in Europe.

His embarrassment perhaps took on an extra red glow, when it was also revealed that some of these same workers had been living in his attic, while carrying out renovation work on his house.
You would be forgiven if this sounds a little like the plot of La Cage Aux Folles.

Anywho...

Mr Knapman is the UKIP spokesman on Civil Liberties, Justice and Home Affairs. And he appararently has an assistant called Piers Merchant.

Now whether this is the same Piers Merchant who was photographed in the arms of a 'nightclub hostess' while a Tory MP, I cannot say.

The reason for the build up, is this reply to an email sent to Mr Knapman, in regard to the McCann case. It was posted on the Mirror Forum with an invitation to give it wider coverage, so that is what I intend doing.

Ladies and Gentlemen, take your seats, kick off your shoes, and enjoy the delight that is the Voice of Reason:

"Roger Knapman MEP has asked me to thank you for your email and to reply as he is currently travelling to Strasbourg.

First I should advise you, for your own good, to be very cautious about circulating potentially high libellous statements about Kate and Gerry McCann.

The law of defamation applies to email and the internet. Secondly your suggestion that the Prime Minister is involved in some sort of conspiracy involving a clandestine cover-up is absurd. It is a wild allegation with no evidence at all.

One of the first duties of the British government is to support its citizens abroad. It is therefore entirely correct that the government should do this in the case of Kate and Gerry McCann.

One of the elements of this supporty is to protect British citizens against the actions of foreign governments. The Portuguese police and judicial system is known to be suspect. Elements of the police are corrupt and indeed in this case the senior detective involved has been charged with corruption.

The Portuguese judicial system does not assume innocence before guilt in the way the British system does and operates an interrogatory process in which people are denounced as suspects without any proof. In this particular case the original police investigation was amateurish and flawed and to date nearly 10 different people have at one time or another been denounced as suspects.

It is important to realise that Portugal has no real history of citizen's rights and liberties or democracy. From the 1920s to the mid 1970's Portugal was ruled by a fascist dictatorship, first under Salazar and then Caetano. Political opposition was repressed and the police and judicial system was used to achieve this.

A stable multi-party democracy only came into existence in the late 1970's and is still very young. Many of the police were trained under fascism and the institutions still bear the impact of this long period of dictatorship. In all the circumstances it is entirely right that British citizens should be protected against an unreliable foreign system. In any event I think you can rest assured that the British police and intelligence services have long had a better grip on the facts of this case than the Portuguese police.

Best wishes
Piers Merchant
Assistant to Roger Knapman MEP"

You can put your eyes back in now.

I love the way Mr Merchant denies the British government is involved in a conspiracy, and then justifies the British government acting in a conspiratorial manner to protect the McCanns from an 'unreliable foreign system'

No doubt Mr Merchant is of the impression that Allo Allo is a hard hitting documentary series.

I would be interested to know the names of the 10 people denounced by the facist Portugese police. To my knowledge there have only been three people named as arguidos.

I would also be interested to know why he thinks the Portugese legal system is based on an assumption of guilt. Amnesty International make no mention of this in their most recent report, and that is the sort of thing they tend to be quite hot on that sort of thing.

Though it is interesting that he mentions the British secret services being involved in the investigation. Given that this is mentioned in the book Madeleine 129.

I wonder if it is the same Piers Merchant:

"In 1997 Piers Merchant learned the camera never lies when he was photographed kissing a blonde, 17-year-old nightclub hostess. He claimed the pictures were a set-up. Six months later he was ‘set up’ again with the same woman, and decided to resign."

If it is, no doubt he will claim that it is unfair to drag up the past.

And while speaking about bigots and Portugal. You may remember Tony 'Special Brew' Parsons' extraordinary outburst in which he refered to the Portugese as 'sardine munchers' among other things.

This led to a number of compliants to the Press Compliants Commision, around 50. The Commision are currently investigating the matter. And as per their procedure, they have selected one complaint to represent all the others. And the complaint they have choosen to highlight is from (not Julie Burchill) Antonio Santana Carlos: the Portugese Ambassador to London.

Incidentally, voters in South West England, will have the chance to unseat Mr Knapman at the Euro elections to be held in 2009. And one of the people they will be able to elect is Justine McGuinness: one time flame haired PR maestro for the McCanns.

http://trannyfattyacid.blogspot.com/

Comentariat · Publicado: Lun Nov 12, 2007 11:46 pm **Título del mensaje**: ANORAK

Madeleine McCann: A Bedroom, A bed And A Blanket
MADDY WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann

DAILY MIRROR front page: “FIRST PIC OF SNATCH SCENE – INSIDE MADDY’S BEDROOM”

A picture of the holiday bedroom from where Madeleine McCann vanished. Useful. Perhaps seeing it will jog your memory…

The Mirror highlights three areas of the room:

DOOR: “LAST LOOK. Dad Gerry last saw his daughter form this door”
BED: “HER BED - “Rumpled covers and pillow on mattress”
WALLS: “UNTOUCHED – Room is as it was after police forensic team finished work”

We commend to your attention the shards of sardine roll, cigarette ash dropping and big footprints

The picture is an “EXCLUSIVE”

MADDY COPS WANTS McCANNS SILENCED” – A plan to do harm to Kate and Gerry McCann?

Almost as bad: “Portuguese police may gag Madeleine McCann’s parents by keeping them suspects for the next 15 years.” So too Robert Murat. This one has along way to run

DAILY EXPRESS front page: “MADELEINE – THE HUNT SWITCHES TO BOSNIA AFTER NEW SIGHTING”

Page 9: “Tourist spotted Madeleine – I heard her yell: ‘I want my daddy’”

The Express hears news from Medugorje, Bosnia, the site of a Catholic shrine. As reported on Anorak, the man sees a girl who looks like Madeleine. He reports it to local police. Police shrug. He tells the McCanns’ private detective firm. They check the expense account. They respond

The “father of six”, from County Fermanagh in Northern Ireland, who asked not to be named, says: “From the minute I saw them, there seemed to be something odd going on. They both had a very swarthy complexion and the toddler with them was a blonde, fair child.” Dark, you say?

“She was wearing a little pink coat and was very agitated and sobbing. The instant I saw her my heart skipped a beat because it struck me that she looked like Madeleine McCann. I felt sure there was something wrong and started to move towards them. As they saw me coming, they started walking faster away from me. I was sure the child they had was not theirs. I got right up beside them, and was about to speak to the child when the man put his hand over her mouth and shoved her into the car. He was pushing her into the back seat and was yelling in a language I didn’t understand.”

“First look at bedroom” – Unless you have already seen the Mirror that is

“New nightmare as McCanns could be suspects for 15 years” – Says Francisco Pagarete, Robert Murat’s lawyer: “The problem is that in Portugal a suspect can remain an arguido for 15 years without any need for police to reapply or extend the status”

No problem for the press

THE SUN page 11: “MADDIE;S BEDROOM.” This is the “FIRST PICTURE” of “Inside the McCann holiday flat”

For those readers unfamiliar with the contents of a “bedroom”, the Sun uses an arrow pointing towards a box-shaped presence and tells us: “Bed she was in before she went missing.” A second arrow points to a “Blanket”

Clarence Mitchell hears of the sighting in Bosnia. Says he:”We are not dismissing it. The witness was 99.9 per cent certain the child was not with her natural parents”

DAILY MAIL page 19: “First photo of Maddie flat as hunt switches to Bosnia”

“Its narrow beds have been stripped of their sheets so they can be analysed for evidence”

And in Bosnia, the “very swarthy” people are with Madeleine. Like the man in Belgian, perhaps…

DAILY STAR page 9: “BOMBSHELL BOOK POINTS FINGER AT MADDIE PARENTS”

Hernani Carvalho and Luis Maia have written Maddie 129. the Star says the book claims some of the Tapas Seven “had already given up searching for Madeleine and were in their own flats 90 minutes after the alarm was raised because ‘they already knew where she was’”

An American artist has been employed by the Star to make Madeleine’s hair from blonde to dark. (Non-experts can use a felt tip or boot polish)

DAILY TELEGRAPH front page: “MADELEINE DETECTIVES CHECK NEW SIGHTING AT BOSNIAN SHRINE”

Page 7: Says Clarence Mitchell: “But as with all these reports, the McCanns refuse to raise their hopes until it has been investigated fully”

NEW YORK TIMES: “European Tabloids Still Agog Months After Child Vanishes”
“Six months after Madeleine McCann, then 3 years old, disappeared from her family’s vacation apartment in Portugal, no development in the case seems too small to merit a banner headline — even the news that her father had returned to his job as a doctor. Similarly, no story is too speculative”

THE GUARDIAN, THE INDEPENDENT and THE TIMES: No Madeleine news

http://www.anorak.co.uk/madeleine-mccann/177549.html

bet · Publicado: Mar Nov 13, 2007 9:54 am **Título del mensaje**:

Un anónimo(23:03) dejó ayer este mensaje en el blog,lo pongo porque si alguien lo puede traducir es ALUCINANTE...
Rabid Ranting in Support of the McCanns
Roger Knapman is a UKIP MEP for South West England.

He made news in 2006 when it was revealed his son was importing labourers from Eastern Europe to undercut British workers, by 50%. Which was rather embarrassing for Mr Knapman given that his party is opposed to immigration partly for this reason, but mainly because it wishes to be seen as standing up for Britian in Europe.

His embarrassment perhaps took on an extra red glow, when it was also revealed that some of these same workers had been living in his attic, while carrying out renovation work on his house.
You would be forgiven if this sounds a little like the plot of La Cage Aux Folles.

Anywho...

Mr Knapman is the UKIP spokesman on Civil Liberties, Justice and Home Affairs. And he appararently has an assistant called Piers Merchant.

Now whether this is the same Piers Merchant who was photographed in the arms of a 'nightclub hostess' while a Tory MP, I cannot say.

The reason for the build up, is this reply to an email sent to Mr Knapman, in regard to the McCann case. It was posted on the Mirror Forum with an invitation to give it wider coverage, so that is what I intend doing.

Ladies and Gentlemen, take your seats, kick off your shoes, and enjoy the delight that is the Voice of Reason:

"Roger Knapman MEP has asked me to thank you for your email and to reply as he is currently travelling to Strasbourg.

First I should advise you, for your own good, to be very cautious about circulating potentially high libellous statements about Kate and Gerry McCann.

The law of defamation applies to email and the internet. Secondly your suggestion that the Prime Minister is involved in some sort of conspiracy involving a clandestine cover-up is absurd. It is a wild allegation with no evidence at all.

One of the first duties of the British government is to support its citizens abroad. It is therefore entirely correct that the government should do this in the case of Kate and Gerry McCann.

One of the elements of this supporty is to protect British citizens against the actions of foreign governments. The Portuguese police and judicial system is known to be suspect. Elements of the police are corrupt and indeed in this case the senior detective involved has been charged with corruption.

The Portuguese judicial system does not assume innocence before guilt in the way the British system does and operates an interrogatory process in which people are denounced as suspects without any proof. In this particular case the original police investigation was amateurish and flawed and to date nearly 10 different people have at one time or another been denounced as suspects.

It is important to realise that Portugal has no real history of citizen's rights and liberties or democracy. From the 1920s to the mid 1970's Portugal was ruled by a fascist dictatorship, first under Salazar and then Caetano. Political opposition was repressed and the police and judicial system was used to achieve this.

A stable multi-party democracy only came into existence in the late 1970's and is still very young. Many of the police were trained under fascism and the institutions still bear the impact of this long period of dictatorship. In all the circumstances it is entirely right that British citizens should be protected against an unreliable foreign system. In any event I think you can rest assured that the British police and intelligence services have long had a better grip on the facts of this case than the Portuguese police.

Best wishes
Piers Merchant
Assistant to Roger Knapman MEP"

You can put your eyes back in now.

I love the way Mr Merchant denies the British government is involved in a conspiracy, and then justifies the British government acting in a conspiratorial manner to protect the McCanns from an 'unreliable foreign system'

No doubt Mr Merchant is of the impression that Allo Allo is a hard hitting documentary series.

I would be interested to know the names of the 10 people denounced by the facist Portugese police. To my knowledge there have only been three people named as arguidos.

I would also be interested to know why he thinks the Portugese legal system is based on an assumption of guilt. Amnesty International make no mention of this in their most recent report, and that is the sort of thing they tend to be quite hot on that sort of thing.

Though it is interesting that he mentions the British secret services being involved in the investigation. Given that this is mentioned in the book Madeleine 129.

I wonder if it is the same Piers Merchant:

"In 1997 Piers Merchant learned the camera never lies when he was photographed kissing a blonde, 17-year-old nightclub hostess. He claimed the pictures were a set-up. Six months later he was ‘set up’ again with the same woman, and decided to resign."

If it is, no doubt he will claim that it is unfair to drag up the past.

And while speaking about bigots and Portugal. You may remember Tony 'Special Brew' Parsons' extraordinary outburst in which he refered to the Portugese as 'sardine munchers' among other things.

This led to a number of compliants to the Press Compliants Commision, around 50. The Commision are currently investigating the matter. And as per their procedure, they have selected one complaint to represent all the others. And the complaint they have choosen to highlight is from (not Julie Burchill) Antonio Santana Carlos: the Portugese Ambassador to London.

Incidentally, voters in South West England, will have the chance to unseat Mr Knapman at the Euro elections to be held in 2009. And one of the people they will be able to elect is Justine McGuinness: one time flame haired PR maestro for the McCanns.
Rabid Ranting in Support of the McCanns
Roger Knapman is a UKIP MEP for South West England.

He made news in 2006 when it was revealed his son was importing labourers from Eastern Europe to undercut British workers, by 50%. Which was rather embarrassing for Mr Knapman given that his party is opposed to immigration partly for this reason, but mainly because it wishes to be seen as standing up for Britian in Europe.

His embarrassment perhaps took on an extra red glow, when it was also revealed that some of these same workers had been living in his attic, while carrying out renovation work on his house.
You would be forgiven if this sounds a little like the plot of La Cage Aux Folles.

Anywho...

Comentariat · Publicado: Mar Nov 13, 2007 11:39 am **Título del mensaje**:

http://trannyfattyacid.blogspot.com/
Update on the Bosnian Sighting
You pay your money and you take your choice when buying your morning paper.

You can either have the Express: Big Hunt in Bosnia Delayed:

"Detectives in the town of Medjugorje, near Mostar, said they could not begin looking for Madeleine until all the official procedures had been completed.

Friends of the McCanns described the delay as frustrating and petty following a sighting of the four-year-old at a Roman Catholic shrine by a British tourist."

and...

"Mario Bosnjak, a regional police spokesman, said: “Every single policeman in Medjugorje has denied receiving any kind of a report regarding the missing British girl. We are ready to take an active role in the case if we received a proper report.” "

Which led a 'friend of the McCanns' to say this:

"“It is frustrating that there have been delays in following up this sighting. It is important they are all taken seriously.”"

Or you can buy the Daily Star which has this story: Maddie Sighting was a Cruel Hoax:

"Regional police spokesman Mario Bosnjak said: “Every single policeman has denied receiving any kind of a report regarding the missing girl.

“And no-one from the British or Portuguese authorities has contacted us regarding the case.”
A police source said: “It is a mystery within a mystery.

“The first place for anyone who sees Madeleine to go is to the police, yet we have not heard from this man who says he saw her.

“He is a religious man. Maybe it was a vision.”"

And no quote from a 'friend of the McCanns'.

The cynical might wonder how long it will be before Clarence Mitchell threatens to sue the Bosnian police.

Though what I do not understand is why the story placed the sighting in Medjugorje. Personally I did not know there was a catholic shrine in the town. And had never heard of it, until someone pointed out the suggestion to pray there on the MadeleineMccann.co.uk website.

Given that the Balkans is well known for people smuggling, why not have the sighting in a place that cannot be so quickly tracked back to a campaign webiste?

Though I suppose until the car is traced, the sighting cannot be entirely discounted.

Comentariat · Novicio Registrado: 11 Nov 2007 Mensajes: 170 Ubicación: Aquí y ahora

Pedro F. Lebre
A great Portuguese-American
November 13th, 2007

Maddie 129

Maddie 129 is the name of the first book about Madeleine McCann. The little girl who went missing in Portugal over six months ago. There hasn’t been much coverage in the United States media about little Maddie but if you watch or read Portuguese news you can’t ignore it. I read the Portuguese newspaper 24 Horas daily and there is always an article about the case. The story keeps getting more and more interesting and has become hard to follow.

The story is more publicized in Europe than in the United States. It have been comparing this case with the OJ Simpson case for months now. Not because of the events that have taken place but because of the media attention. I remember how America followed the OJ Simpson trial for two years. The Madeleine McCann case is heading in the same direction. Much of the television and print media coverage is reserved for Maddie. Some print media have sections just for the case. Its something like: Weather, Sports, Maddie, Local News, etc.

The book was written by two Portuguese journalists: Hernâni Carvalho and Luis Maia. The tittle of the book comes from Madeleine McCann’s nickname and the number of days she had been missing before her parents went back to England. I found this to be very interesting because from the beginning Gerry and Kate McCann said they would not leave Portugal until they found Maddie. They also left for England after Portuguese Police named them as official suspects in the case.

In a CNN London interview Luis Maia, co-author, said “This book is mainly about doubts, about contradictions - contradictions implicate lies.” The books is about looking at the facts in the case. Hernâni Carvalho, author, said “Speaking with the police, each nine of them told different versions about the same fact” The “nine of them” or “Tapas Nine” is the name given to the McCann’s and their seven friends who were at a local restaurant when Maddie disappeared.

I would be interested in reading this book because so much about this case doesn’t add up. The problem I have with the book is that next week the details will change. Overall, I guess it is worth the time if you are interested in the case. Additionally, I don’t think the parents did it. Most people think the parents killed her and are covering it up. The McCann’s are doctors, not actors. Either that or they are really really evil people.

From what I have been reading, most people want to read the book. However, the McCann family spokesperson, Clarence Mitchell is saying the journalists are just trying to make some money. He even had the nerve to say that this book is being rushed into publication in time for Christmas so they could make some money. Who would want to receive this book for Christmas? Not me.

http://pedrorules.wordpress.com/

Comentariat · Novicio Registrado: 11 Nov 2007 Mensajes: 170 Ubicación: Aquí y ahora

McCann Investigation Flawed From Start'
By Martin Brunt
Sky News crime correspondent
Updated:14:46, Tuesday November 13, 2007
The Portuguese police are "corrupt" and conducted a "flawed" investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance, according to a British MEP.

Police at scene in Praia da Luz
"The Portuguese police and judicial system is known to be suspect," says a letter from the office of Roger Knapman.
The letter from the MEP for the South West of England added: "Elements of the police are corrupt... the original police investigation was amateurish and flawed.
"It is important to realise that Portugal has no real history of citizen's rights and liberties or democracy."
The letter was written on Mr Knapman's behalf, in reply to a woman who lobbied several MEPs complaining of the damage the case was doing to UK-Portugal relations.
The woman accused the British Government and Gordon Brown of using political pressure to allow the McCanns to "avoid the consequences of Portugal's legal system".
The MEP's letter says it is absurd to suggest the Prime Minister is involved in a cover-up.

Missing Madeleine McCann
It points out that Portugal became a democracy only 30 years ago. "Many of the police were trained under fascism and the institutions still bear the impact of this long period of dictatorship."
It adds: "In all the circumstances it is entirely right that British citizens should be protected against an unreliable foreign system.
"In any event I think you can rest assured that the British police and intelligence services have long had a better grip on the facts of this case than the Portuguese police."
The letter